I am trying to devise a formula so to have "fair deal" with market maker
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I am trying to devise a formula so to have "fair deal" with market maker
Stock Last Ex-P Mom Expire Left Pre Con wp 21 22 23 24 25 21 22 23 24 25 21 22 23 24 25 21 22 23 24 25
AFFIN-CD 0.165 3.00 3.44 281011 214 6.4% 4 67% 3.52 3.50 3.50 3.42 3.44 0.170 0.175 0.155 0.155 0.165 76% 71% 81% 68% 67% 4.5% 5.7% 3.4% 5.8% 6.4%
AIRASIA-CI 0.510 1.80 2.70 120911 168 4.4% 2 88% 2.47 2.52 2.57 2.70 2.70 0.400 0.415 0.435 0.490 0.510 84% 87% 89% 92% 88% 5.3% 4.4% 3.9% 3.0% 4.4%
AIRASIA-CJ 0.195 2.35 2.70 281011 214 8.7% 3 60% 2.47 2.52 2.57 2.70 2.70 0.160 0.160 0.170 0.200 0.195 25% 35% 43% 58% 60% 14.6% 12.3% 11.3% 9.3% 8.7%
AIRASIA-CK 0.190 2.30 2.70 010811 126 6.3% 3 70% 2.47 2.52 2.57 2.70 2.70 0.150 0.165 0.185 0.190 49% 55% 72% 70% 9.1% 8.8% 5.7% 6.3%
AMMB-CH 0.365 5.00 6.40 130511 46 0.9% 4 96% 6.29 6.30 6.30 6.36 6.40 0.345 0.365 99% 96% 0.3% 0.9%
AMMB-JA 0.190 5.06 6.40 301211 277 2.8% 8 88% 6.29 6.30 6.30 6.36 6.40 0.190 88% 2.8%
BJCORP-CC 0.065 1.00 1.08 080611 72 4.6% 2 62% 1.04 1.05 1.07 1.07 1.08 0.060 0.060 0.065 0.060 0.065 33% 42% 54% 58% 62% 7.7% 6.7% 5.6% 4.7% 4.6%
BJCORP-JB 0.153 0.78 1.08 100511 43 0.5% 2 98% 1.04 1.05 1.07 1.07 1.08 0.135 0.145 96% 100% 1.0%
BJTOTO-JA 0.150 3.65 4.20 280711 122 1.2% 4 92% 4.21 4.22 4.22 4.22 4.20 0.150 0.140 0.150 0.150 95% 102% 95% 92% 0.7% -0.2% 0.7% 1.2%
BURSA-CP 0.200 7.00 8.30 180511 51 -1.2% 6 108% 7.97 7.98 8.09 8.09 8.30 0.155 0.165 0.190 0.180 0.200 104% 99% 96% 101% 108% -0.5% 0.1% 0.6% -0.1% -1.2%
DRBHCOM-CC 0.520 1.15 2.16 181011 204 1.4% 2 97% 2.03 2.11 2.10 2.12 2.16 0.460 0.490 0.485 0.495 0.520 96% 98% 98% 98% 97% 2.0% 0.9% 1.0% 0.9% 1.4%
GENM-CQ 0.135 3.15 3.59 150811 140 2.8% 4 81% 3.43 3.42 3.48 3.55 3.59 0.105 0.110 0.130 0.135 67% 75% 77% 81% 4.1% 3.2% 3.4% 2.8%
GENM-JA 0.205 2.55 3.59 041011 190 -0.4% 5 101% 3.43 3.42 3.48 3.55 3.59 0.165 0.180 0.205 0.205 107% 103% 98% 101% -1.6% -0.9% 0.7% -0.4%
IOICORP-CP 0.238 5.00 5.70 250811 150 4.4% 4 74% 5.69 5.70 5.72 5.70 5.70 0.230 0.230 76% 78% 3.9% 3.5%
IOICORP-JA 0.105 4.95 5.70 190811 144 1.6% 8 89% 5.69 5.70 5.72 5.70 5.70 0.095 0.100 0.100 0.095 0.105 97% 94% 96% 99% 89% 0.4% 0.9% 0.5% 0.2% 1.6%
KPJ-CA 0.150 3.20 3.95 280711 122 5 100% 3.83 3.89 3.89 3.92 3.95 0.135 0.140 0.140 0.150 102% 99% 103% 100% -0.4% 0.3% -0.5%
MAHSING-JA 0.140 1.96 2.47 301111 247 2.0% 4 91% 2.36 2.38 2.42 2.42 2.47 0.120 0.135 0.140 0.135 0.140 83% 78% 82% 85% 91% 3.4% 5.0% 4.1% 3.3% 2.0%
MAYBANK-CO 0.205 7.70 8.77 280711 122 1.8% 6 87% 8.71 8.72 8.74 8.75 8.77 0.195 0.200 0.200 0.200 0.205 86% 85% 87% 88% 87% 1.8% 2.1% 1.8% 1.7% 1.8%
MAYBANK-JA 0.185 7.04 8.77 110711 105 1.4% 10 94% 8.71 8.72 8.74 8.75 8.77 0.180 0.175 0.185 93% 97% 94% 1.5% 0.6% 1.4%
MPHB-JA 0.290 1.80 2.66 210711 115 0.4% 3 99% 2.52 2.58 2.69 2.66 2.66 0.255 0.255 0.285 0.280 0.290 94% 102% 104% 102% 99% 1.8% -0.6% -1.3% -0.8% 0.4%
PCHEM-CA 0.355 5.00 6.83 010811 126 -0.8% 5 103% 6.71 6.74 6.73 6.76 6.83 0.325 0.330 0.330 0.350 0.355 105% 105% 105% 101% 103% -1.3% -1.3% -1.2% -0.1% -0.8%
PCHEM-CC 0.200 5.90 6.83 250711 119 1.0% 5 93% 6.71 6.74 6.73 6.76 6.83 0.175 0.175 0.185 0.190 0.200 93% 96% 90% 91% 93% 1.0% 0.5% 1.4% 1.3% 1.0%
RHBCAP-CD 0.250 6.50 8.31 270911 183 2.3% 8 91% 7.97 8.00 8.02 8.03 8.31 0.215 0.220 0.250 87% 86% 91% 2.8% 3.0% 2.3%
SAPCRES-CC 0.425 2.40 3.59 111011 197 2.4% 3 93% 3.52 3.56 3.55 3.60 3.59 0.390 0.410 0.410 0.425 96% 94% 93% 93% 1.4% 2.0% 2.3% 2.4%
SIME-JA 0.165 7.60 9.15 050811 130 1.1% 10 94% 9.03 9.12 9.15 9.15 9.15 0.155 0.160 0.165 0.165 98% 97% 94% 94% 0.3% 0.5% 1.1% 1.1%
TM-CM 0.240 3.20 3.90 280711 122 0.5% 3 97% 3.88 3.88 3.88 3.89 3.90 0.230 0.235 0.240 0.240 99% 96% 96% 97% 0.3% 0.6% 0.8% 0.5%
TM-CO 0.215 3.10 3.90 120911 168 1.5% 4 93% 3.88 3.88 3.88 3.89 3.90 0.210 0.215 93% 93% 1.5% 1.5%
UMW-CD 0.170 6.50 7.25 211011 207 1.4% 5 88% 7.20 7.23 7.25 7.24 7.25 0.160 0.160 0.165 0.160 0.170 88% 91% 91% 93% 88% 1.4% 1.0% 1.0% 0.8% 1.4%
AFFIN-CD 0.165 3.00 3.44 281011 214 6.4% 4 67% 3.52 3.50 3.50 3.42 3.44 0.170 0.175 0.155 0.155 0.165 76% 71% 81% 68% 67% 4.5% 5.7% 3.4% 5.8% 6.4%
AIRASIA-CI 0.510 1.80 2.70 120911 168 4.4% 2 88% 2.47 2.52 2.57 2.70 2.70 0.400 0.415 0.435 0.490 0.510 84% 87% 89% 92% 88% 5.3% 4.4% 3.9% 3.0% 4.4%
AIRASIA-CJ 0.195 2.35 2.70 281011 214 8.7% 3 60% 2.47 2.52 2.57 2.70 2.70 0.160 0.160 0.170 0.200 0.195 25% 35% 43% 58% 60% 14.6% 12.3% 11.3% 9.3% 8.7%
AIRASIA-CK 0.190 2.30 2.70 010811 126 6.3% 3 70% 2.47 2.52 2.57 2.70 2.70 0.150 0.165 0.185 0.190 49% 55% 72% 70% 9.1% 8.8% 5.7% 6.3%
AMMB-CH 0.365 5.00 6.40 130511 46 0.9% 4 96% 6.29 6.30 6.30 6.36 6.40 0.345 0.365 99% 96% 0.3% 0.9%
AMMB-JA 0.190 5.06 6.40 301211 277 2.8% 8 88% 6.29 6.30 6.30 6.36 6.40 0.190 88% 2.8%
BJCORP-CC 0.065 1.00 1.08 080611 72 4.6% 2 62% 1.04 1.05 1.07 1.07 1.08 0.060 0.060 0.065 0.060 0.065 33% 42% 54% 58% 62% 7.7% 6.7% 5.6% 4.7% 4.6%
BJCORP-JB 0.153 0.78 1.08 100511 43 0.5% 2 98% 1.04 1.05 1.07 1.07 1.08 0.135 0.145 96% 100% 1.0%
BJTOTO-JA 0.150 3.65 4.20 280711 122 1.2% 4 92% 4.21 4.22 4.22 4.22 4.20 0.150 0.140 0.150 0.150 95% 102% 95% 92% 0.7% -0.2% 0.7% 1.2%
BURSA-CP 0.200 7.00 8.30 180511 51 -1.2% 6 108% 7.97 7.98 8.09 8.09 8.30 0.155 0.165 0.190 0.180 0.200 104% 99% 96% 101% 108% -0.5% 0.1% 0.6% -0.1% -1.2%
DRBHCOM-CC 0.520 1.15 2.16 181011 204 1.4% 2 97% 2.03 2.11 2.10 2.12 2.16 0.460 0.490 0.485 0.495 0.520 96% 98% 98% 98% 97% 2.0% 0.9% 1.0% 0.9% 1.4%
GENM-CQ 0.135 3.15 3.59 150811 140 2.8% 4 81% 3.43 3.42 3.48 3.55 3.59 0.105 0.110 0.130 0.135 67% 75% 77% 81% 4.1% 3.2% 3.4% 2.8%
GENM-JA 0.205 2.55 3.59 041011 190 -0.4% 5 101% 3.43 3.42 3.48 3.55 3.59 0.165 0.180 0.205 0.205 107% 103% 98% 101% -1.6% -0.9% 0.7% -0.4%
IOICORP-CP 0.238 5.00 5.70 250811 150 4.4% 4 74% 5.69 5.70 5.72 5.70 5.70 0.230 0.230 76% 78% 3.9% 3.5%
IOICORP-JA 0.105 4.95 5.70 190811 144 1.6% 8 89% 5.69 5.70 5.72 5.70 5.70 0.095 0.100 0.100 0.095 0.105 97% 94% 96% 99% 89% 0.4% 0.9% 0.5% 0.2% 1.6%
KPJ-CA 0.150 3.20 3.95 280711 122 5 100% 3.83 3.89 3.89 3.92 3.95 0.135 0.140 0.140 0.150 102% 99% 103% 100% -0.4% 0.3% -0.5%
MAHSING-JA 0.140 1.96 2.47 301111 247 2.0% 4 91% 2.36 2.38 2.42 2.42 2.47 0.120 0.135 0.140 0.135 0.140 83% 78% 82% 85% 91% 3.4% 5.0% 4.1% 3.3% 2.0%
MAYBANK-CO 0.205 7.70 8.77 280711 122 1.8% 6 87% 8.71 8.72 8.74 8.75 8.77 0.195 0.200 0.200 0.200 0.205 86% 85% 87% 88% 87% 1.8% 2.1% 1.8% 1.7% 1.8%
MAYBANK-JA 0.185 7.04 8.77 110711 105 1.4% 10 94% 8.71 8.72 8.74 8.75 8.77 0.180 0.175 0.185 93% 97% 94% 1.5% 0.6% 1.4%
MPHB-JA 0.290 1.80 2.66 210711 115 0.4% 3 99% 2.52 2.58 2.69 2.66 2.66 0.255 0.255 0.285 0.280 0.290 94% 102% 104% 102% 99% 1.8% -0.6% -1.3% -0.8% 0.4%
PCHEM-CA 0.355 5.00 6.83 010811 126 -0.8% 5 103% 6.71 6.74 6.73 6.76 6.83 0.325 0.330 0.330 0.350 0.355 105% 105% 105% 101% 103% -1.3% -1.3% -1.2% -0.1% -0.8%
PCHEM-CC 0.200 5.90 6.83 250711 119 1.0% 5 93% 6.71 6.74 6.73 6.76 6.83 0.175 0.175 0.185 0.190 0.200 93% 96% 90% 91% 93% 1.0% 0.5% 1.4% 1.3% 1.0%
RHBCAP-CD 0.250 6.50 8.31 270911 183 2.3% 8 91% 7.97 8.00 8.02 8.03 8.31 0.215 0.220 0.250 87% 86% 91% 2.8% 3.0% 2.3%
SAPCRES-CC 0.425 2.40 3.59 111011 197 2.4% 3 93% 3.52 3.56 3.55 3.60 3.59 0.390 0.410 0.410 0.425 96% 94% 93% 93% 1.4% 2.0% 2.3% 2.4%
SIME-JA 0.165 7.60 9.15 050811 130 1.1% 10 94% 9.03 9.12 9.15 9.15 9.15 0.155 0.160 0.165 0.165 98% 97% 94% 94% 0.3% 0.5% 1.1% 1.1%
TM-CM 0.240 3.20 3.90 280711 122 0.5% 3 97% 3.88 3.88 3.88 3.89 3.90 0.230 0.235 0.240 0.240 99% 96% 96% 97% 0.3% 0.6% 0.8% 0.5%
TM-CO 0.215 3.10 3.90 120911 168 1.5% 4 93% 3.88 3.88 3.88 3.89 3.90 0.210 0.215 93% 93% 1.5% 1.5%
UMW-CD 0.170 6.50 7.25 211011 207 1.4% 5 88% 7.20 7.23 7.25 7.24 7.25 0.160 0.160 0.165 0.160 0.170 88% 91% 91% 93% 88% 1.4% 1.0% 1.0% 0.8% 1.4%
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the hidden secret is, premium serve not much purpose but the real value of bb, mm will throw whatever qty they can especially when real bb value is less than 60% of the market price the bb fetch. this happen to dialog ce, airasia cl, drb cd, ce and much much more.
when we understand this we know roughly whether the bb will go down etc. this is especially important for those wanna play high premium bb
nonetheless, high premium not necessary equal low bb value....there's another catch
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mom up 23 cents and drb cd up 6 cents ac...while drb ce up 8 cents ac
not easy not easy...mom up 23 cents while cd only up 2 cents and ce up 4 cents
real value of bb spike up almost 50% for both bb, this is the reasons why premium go down a lot but price reluctant to go up
expected if drb up another 8 cents....cd will up 1 cents only while ce will up another 1.5 cents only until a stage the real bb worth more than 70% than bb will become more sensitive
not easy not easy...mom up 23 cents while cd only up 2 cents and ce up 4 cents
real value of bb spike up almost 50% for both bb, this is the reasons why premium go down a lot but price reluctant to go up
expected if drb up another 8 cents....cd will up 1 cents only while ce will up another 1.5 cents only until a stage the real bb worth more than 70% than bb will become more sensitive
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drb cd i think need to go lower than 5% only start being sensitive
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Netsoft wrote:drb cd i think need to go lower than 5% only start being sensitive [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
after seeing the figure...only i am clear....so not worth to enter..even mom chiong...cd will not move..mm keep throwing....they may use other brokers house to throw..not necessary from osk
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maxims wrote:Netsoft wrote:drb cd i think need to go lower than 5% only start being sensitive [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
after seeing the figure...only i am clear....so not worth to enter..even mom chiong...cd will not move..mm keep throwing....they may use other brokers house to throw..not necessary from osk
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