Re: 23 August 2011

by davidlo Tue 23 Aug 2011, 12:30

m$ wrote:
m$ wrote:
xettie wrote:affin-cd may run very fast if the mother recovers. problem is when the mother will recover... it's super slow compare to other smaller banks.

and affin-cd's time is closing in...

affin worth 2 cents only....with this type of market...no one going to punt....

even mom chiong...whenever someone go buy..they will meet with huge selling....for me the outlook is not good....it may end up slightly better than gamuda cm cn

only bb with say 1.5% will fly....so high premium no way to fly xettie

affin cd is coffin bb soon lik gcm cm, who go in may end up zero value when expired. now categories in super high risk bb liao in this bear bear market

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 12:30

h2..if hsi drop to 19132 then bb premium is zero and worth 0.11

now bb only worth 5 cents....meaning this bb networth or intrinsic value is very volatile...

every 100 point may cause bb up down around 1.3 cents....or around 10 to 30% of bb market price(% depend on bb market price)

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 12:32

those that bought gcm at say 1 to 1.5 cents don u think is very stupid? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by davidlo Tue 23 Aug 2011, 12:33

m$ wrote:h2..if hsi drop to 19132 then bb premium is zero and worth 0.11

now bb only worth 5 cents....meaning this bb networth or intrinsic value is very volatile...

every 100 point may cause bb up down around 1.3 cents....or around 10 to 30% of bb market price(% depend on bb market price)

this bb might end up with zero value if hsi bull run(unlikely happen recent market). so is very safe bet(just the price entry and exit will diferent you as smart or cowboy)

by davidlo Tue 23 Aug 2011, 12:35

m$ wrote:those that bought gcm at say 1 to 1.5 cents don u think is very stupid? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

even buy 0.5sen also stupid la, in bear market, gcm wont back to 3.375 in september

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 12:38

davidlo wrote:
m$ wrote:h2..if hsi drop to 19132 then bb premium is zero and worth 0.11

now bb only worth 5 cents....meaning this bb networth or intrinsic value is very volatile...

every 100 point may cause bb up down around 1.3 cents....or around 10 to 30% of bb market price(% depend on bb market price)

this bb might end up with zero value if hsi bull run(unlikely happen recent market). so is very safe bet(just the price entry and exit will diferent you as smart or cowboy)

simple if hsi = 20000 bb worth zero, if hsi down to 19132 then worth 10 cents....if bb down to 18200 level...roughly around 20 cents......meaning every 800 point up down bb up down 10 cents...scary le [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 12:40

m$ wrote:
davidlo wrote:
m$ wrote:h2..if hsi drop to 19132 then bb premium is zero and worth 0.11

now bb only worth 5 cents....meaning this bb networth or intrinsic value is very volatile...

every 100 point may cause bb up down around 1.3 cents....or around 10 to 30% of bb market price(% depend on bb market price)

this bb might end up with zero value if hsi bull run(unlikely happen recent market). so is very safe bet(just the price entry and exit will diferent you as smart or cowboy)

simple if hsi = 20000 bb worth zero, if hsi down to 19132 then worth 11 cents....if bb down to 18200 level...roughly around 23 cents......meaning every 800 point up down bb up down 10 cents...scary le [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by davidlo Tue 23 Aug 2011, 12:48

m$ wrote:
davidlo wrote:
m$ wrote:h2..if hsi drop to 19132 then bb premium is zero and worth 0.11

now bb only worth 5 cents....meaning this bb networth or intrinsic value is very volatile...

every 100 point may cause bb up down around 1.3 cents....or around 10 to 30% of bb market price(% depend on bb market price)

this bb might end up with zero value if hsi bull run(unlikely happen recent market). so is very safe bet(just the price entry and exit will diferent you as smart or cowboy)

simple if hsi = 20000 bb worth zero, if hsi down to 19132 then worth 10 cents....if bb down to 18200 level...roughly around 20 cents......meaning every 800 point up down bb up down 10 cents...scary le [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

but i forsee the hsi will lousai[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by budgee Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:14

HSI - once it opens at 1:30 pm, if it goes down, then can buy 0.115 ??

by Chandra Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:20

budgee wrote:HSI - once it opens at 1:30 pm, if it goes down, then can buy 0.115 ??

Hi Mr Bud. Guess all are busy having lunch....

by budgee Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:22

Chandra wrote:
budgee wrote:HSI - once it opens at 1:30 pm, if it goes down, then can buy 0.115 ??

Hi Mr Bud. Guess all are busy having lunch....

Hello Chandra,
yes, guess so. Markets are still very shaky and the direction is not clear.

Anyway hope you all make money.

by Chandra Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:23

Yeap, hope so.....

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by Chandra Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:31

+175 wowww

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:34

wa kanasai lo....[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by davidlo Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:36

m$ wrote:wa kanasai lo....[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

wa, hsi +200 liao. condolence to max and wesly, but may retrace very fast, keep watching

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:36

davidlo wrote:
m$ wrote:wa kanasai lo....[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

wa, hsi +200 liao. condolence to max and wesly, but may retrace very fast, keep watching

no risk no gain...[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:37

in theory lost 2.5 cent liao

by budgee Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:37

I downloaded the HSI-H2 paper.

What exchange rate do you use to calculate?

The multiplier is 1, right?

by davidlo Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:38

m$ wrote:in theory lost 2.5 cent liao

wesly cai now hand shaking liao, see not type message oredi[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by davidlo Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:38

+216 liao

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:38

budgee wrote:I downloaded the HSI-H2 paper.

What exchange rate do you use to calculate?

The multiplier is 1, right?

yes

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:39

m$ wrote:
budgee wrote:I downloaded the HSI-H2 paper.

What exchange rate do you use to calculate?

The multiplier is 1, right?

yes

2.6287

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:39

davidlo wrote:+216 liao

is like playing baccarat..if hsi go green few day then po kai lo[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:40

but i think finally will retrace to 160 level

by Guest Tue 23 Aug 2011, 13:41

23 Aug 2011 06:10 BST DJ UPDATE: Asian Shares Mostly Up; China HSBC PMI Injects Some Optimism

-- A rise in China's August HSBC PMI drives rebound in regional stocks

-- Exporters rise in Tokyo as the yen retreats from its record high

(Adds information, quotes, updates/adds market levels)

By Shri Navaratnam and Ga-Woon Philip Vahn

Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

SINGAPORE (Dow Jones)--Asian shares were mostly higher as China's manufacturing activity eased concerns of a downturn in the world's second largest economy, injecting some confidence to recently battered markets.

The China HSBC Purchasing Managers Index data also drove riskier currencies like the Australian dollar higher, while the yen was stable as Japanese authorities continued to hint at yen-selling intervention moves.

The HSBC preliminary PMI rose to a two-month high of 49.8 in August from a final reading of 49.3 in July. While the number was still below the key 50 level which separates growth in economic activity from contraction, the outcome was higher than some had feared.

"It's questionable if we could call this a good reading, but given that global economic sentiment has worsened quite a bit lately, that reading may not look too bad," said Daisaku Ueno, chief analyst at Gaitame.Com Research Institute in Tokyo.

Markets, which opened tentatively amid an uninspiring lead from Wall Street, pushed higher after the PMI data. Japan's Nikkei Stock Average was up 0.8%, Australia's S&P/ASX 200 rose 1.7%, South Korea's Kospi Composite was 4.0% higher. The Shanghai Composite Index was up 0.7%, Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index gained 0.6%, while India's Sensex fell 0.6%.

Dow Jones Industrial Average futures were up 63 points in screen trade.

The Australian dollar--a barometer of risk appetite in the region--rose on the PMI data. The currency was recently fetching A$1.0449, from A$1.0401 earlier.

Foreign exchange majors traded in narrow ranges. The euro was fetching $1.4369 against the dollar, from $1.4358 late Monday in New York, and Y110.35 against the yen, from Y110.25. The dollar was at Y76.78, compared with Y76.79, holding steady as Japanese officials continued to warn against speculative and one-sided moves in efforts to curb the yen's strength.

Exporter stocks rose in Japan as the yen retreated from Friday's all-time high of Y75.94 against the U.S. dollar. "This bounce (in the yen) is likely to continue today with investors contrasting the near certainty of (Bank of Japan) action against the much more clouded outlook for the Fed," Credit Agricole said in a note to clients.

Canon gained 2.1%, while Nintendo jumped 10% amid expectations of possible new product/game announcements at an upcoming 3DS trade show on Sept. 13.

In Seoul, the Kospi staged a rebound after tumbling around 20% this month, with construction plays leading the charge amid growing expectations that political stability in the Middle East and North Africa would lead to a number of construction projects. Samsung Engineering jumped 5.1%.

Spot gold was at $1,902.20, up $4.10 from New York Monday. Some traders have begun to view gold's rise as a play on any additional easing measures that might emerge at the Jackson Hole summit.

October Nymex crude oil futures were up 52 cents at $84.94 per barrel. September Japanese government bond futures were down 0.16 at 142.61 on the Nikkei's rise.

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