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Re: 18 March 2011
phoenix87 wrote:maxims wrote:i still think if we lost money if happen mom go down then no one to blame....but if mom go up quite a lot and mm refuse to let it up...then is totally a disastrous act if we still keep on jump in those counter that mm by osk... i am not angry etc....just feel we should really forget about counter like this...drb ce also u guy should not involve....
agree....will boycott all osk mm bb.........
great discovery max......but how many people out there will know diff market maker got diff tactic..........
just few mm..such as cimb kenanga ambank and osk
example cimb is gentlemen..such as drb cc or ammb ch, they q first eg ammb ch 0.33 buy and 0.34 sell....if happen mom chiong 4 5 cents..they will re queue 0.34 buy and 0.35 sell...this i call gentlemen market making....not like osk...if mom up few cents...how the fcuk is they still q sell same price on the bb and refuse to let the bb up....they doing this is like trapping bb player only....what they want is to flood the market with qty and they take the cash. this for me is not ethical..and at the end...most bb player either make half cents or 1 cent but at long run most lost like hell say 1 to 3 cent if mom go down...so shall we playing with devil shark? maxims don dare anymore
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Re: 18 March 2011
davidlo wrote:maxims wrote:bursa cp is more reponding to mom..cause the market maker cimb is more gentlemen than osk [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
not really la sifu max, kulim-cb is from cimb, mum up 14sen, it drop 0.5sen. funny. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
kulim cb may not from market maker..it's due to yesterday transaction so huge and bb player take profits..this i call insensitive (naturally due to player holding too many qty and they resort to take profit) but osk i personally experience...i buy buy but the counter match party is all from osk, it cannot be so coincident. kulim case i cannot comfirm cause i am not in...but those cases i can confirm is pchem..dialog..drb ce cd etc...
anyone u guy still can go ahead buy osk counter what...i never stop u guy le..just advice only [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Re: 18 March 2011
axiata got movement
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Re: 18 March 2011
maxims wrote:davidlo wrote:maxims wrote:bursa cp is more reponding to mom..cause the market maker cimb is more gentlemen than osk [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
not really la sifu max, kulim-cb is from cimb, mum up 14sen, it drop 0.5sen. funny. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
kulim cb may not from market maker..it's due to yesterday transaction so huge and bb player take profits..this i call insensitive (naturally due to player holding too many qty and they resort to take profit) but osk i personally experience...i buy buy but the counter match party is all from osk, it cannot be so coincident. kulim case i cannot comfirm cause i am not in...but those cases i can confirm is pchem..dialog..drb ce cd etc...
anyone u guy still can go ahead buy osk counter what...i never stop u guy le..just advice only [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
oh.. thank max, new things learn from you again. many thanks [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Re: 18 March 2011
maxims wrote:phoenix87 wrote:maxims wrote:i still think if we lost money if happen mom go down then no one to blame....but if mom go up quite a lot and mm refuse to let it up...then is totally a disastrous act if we still keep on jump in those counter that mm by osk... i am not angry etc....just feel we should really forget about counter like this...drb ce also u guy should not involve....
agree....will boycott all osk mm bb.........
great discovery max......but how many people out there will know diff market maker got diff tactic..........
just few mm..such as cimb kenanga ambank and osk
example cimb is gentlemen..such as drb cc or ammb ch, they q first eg ammb ch 0.33 buy and 0.34 sell....if happen mom chiong 4 5 cents..they will re queue 0.34 buy and 0.35 sell...this i call gentlemen market making....not like osk...if mom up few cents...how the fcuk is they still q sell same price on the bb and refuse to let the bb up....they doing this is like trapping bb player only....what they want is to flood the market with qty and they take the cash. this for me is not ethical..and at the end...most bb player either make half cents or 1 cent but at long run most lost like hell say 1 to 3 cent if mom go down...so shall we playing with devil shark? maxims don dare anymore
not ethical and market centric. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
boycott is the only way.
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Re: 18 March 2011
Samseng wrote:axiata got movement
the 201 lot is from u leh, [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] , good luck to u to unload. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Re: 18 March 2011
Samseng wrote:axiata got movement
this one bb also very lag. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Re: 18 March 2011
sk wrote:maxims wrote:phoenix87 wrote:maxims wrote:i still think if we lost money if happen mom go down then no one to blame....but if mom go up quite a lot and mm refuse to let it up...then is totally a disastrous act if we still keep on jump in those counter that mm by osk... i am not angry etc....just feel we should really forget about counter like this...drb ce also u guy should not involve....
agree....will boycott all osk mm bb.........
great discovery max......but how many people out there will know diff market maker got diff tactic..........
just few mm..such as cimb kenanga ambank and osk
example cimb is gentlemen..such as drb cc or ammb ch, they q first eg ammb ch 0.33 buy and 0.34 sell....if happen mom chiong 4 5 cents..they will re queue 0.34 buy and 0.35 sell...this i call gentlemen market making....not like osk...if mom up few cents...how the fcuk is they still q sell same price on the bb and refuse to let the bb up....they doing this is like trapping bb player only....what they want is to flood the market with qty and they take the cash. this for me is not ethical..and at the end...most bb player either make half cents or 1 cent but at long run most lost like hell say 1 to 3 cent if mom go down...so shall we playing with devil shark? maxims don dare anymore
not ethical and market centric. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
boycott is the only way.
sk if u r in dialog ce like sun....mom up few cents..but the bb is not moving at all and anytime may go loss u happy or not?
this is more than boycott...we want to look for potential bb too that go up fast go down fast....more turnover....no point make half cent but have to wait for few days and only mom up 10 cents only bb up half cent...not worth it
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Re: 18 March 2011
sk wrote:Samseng wrote:axiata got movement
this one bb also very lag. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
but cimb is very fair...at least 10 times fairer than osk...
cimb mm style is they q buy 0.19 q sell 0.2..once people buy 0.2 and mom up..thy rarely spot sell 0.2 again...THEY MM FOLLOW MOM MOVEMENT ALMOST 85%...NOT LIKE OSK....PEOPLE BUY 5K LOT WHEN MOM UP...THEY GO AND SELL 10K LOT AGAIN....IF LIKE THAT THOSE GET CAUGHT BUYING 5K LOT WILL EVENTUALLY EITHER SELL BACK AT COST OR EVEN LOST...
ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS TOPGLOV CC
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Re: 18 March 2011
IF WE ENTER OSK COUNTER....WE REALLY CANT USE WYSIWYG ANYMORE....DON EVEN KNOW WHEN OSK WILL SELL...FOR NORMAL COUNTER MM BY CIMB...AFTER MARKET MAKER Q SELL QTY BEING TAKEN THEY WILL NOT SELL AGAIN..NOT LIKE OSK...KEEP ON SELLING EVEN MOM UP....I THINK MY OBSERVATION IS VERY IMPORTANT TO SAFE GUARD 1. OUR CAPITAL...2. AVOID CAPITAL BEING TRAP...3. MISS THE BOAT IF WE HAPPEN GO IN COUNTER LIKE DIALOG CE AND OTHER BB CHIONG LIKE HELL
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Re: 18 March 2011
in UEM-CE @ 0.165 just now ... 900 lots
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Re: 18 March 2011
bernardlcn wrote:in UEM-CE @ 0.165 just now ... 900 lots
and had made sure it's MM is CIMB [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Re: 18 March 2011
maxims wrote:sk wrote:maxims wrote:phoenix87 wrote:maxims wrote:i still think if we lost money if happen mom go down then no one to blame....but if mom go up quite a lot and mm refuse to let it up...then is totally a disastrous act if we still keep on jump in those counter that mm by osk... i am not angry etc....just feel we should really forget about counter like this...drb ce also u guy should not involve....
agree....will boycott all osk mm bb.........
great discovery max......but how many people out there will know diff market maker got diff tactic..........
just few mm..such as cimb kenanga ambank and osk
example cimb is gentlemen..such as drb cc or ammb ch, they q first eg ammb ch 0.33 buy and 0.34 sell....if happen mom chiong 4 5 cents..they will re queue 0.34 buy and 0.35 sell...this i call gentlemen market making....not like osk...if mom up few cents...how the fcuk is they still q sell same price on the bb and refuse to let the bb up....they doing this is like trapping bb player only....what they want is to flood the market with qty and they take the cash. this for me is not ethical..and at the end...most bb player either make half cents or 1 cent but at long run most lost like hell say 1 to 3 cent if mom go down...so shall we playing with devil shark? maxims don dare anymore
not ethical and market centric. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
boycott is the only way.
sk if u r in dialog ce like sun....mom up few cents..but the bb is not moving at all and anytime may go loss u happy or not?
this is more than boycott...we want to look for potential bb too that go up fast go down fast....more turnover....no point make half cent but have to wait for few days and only mom up 10 cents only bb up half cent...not worth it
you are right. i notice lately all bb very lag. mom goes up so high, bb not erected. not sure all phobia and cautious after the recent sell down.
early this year before CNY, all bb are very responsive, all comraides here make money but mostly get vomit out in single trade of course some due to holding stubburnly, their mistake too.
many here today make the most 1c and lose half sen and brokerage constantly, how many can we afford that ? haiz. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Re: 18 March 2011
uem on the move?
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Re: 18 March 2011
yup i want to take 0.2 just now when mom up 4.81 just now, then see it come back down [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]davidlo wrote:Samseng wrote:axiata got movement
the 201 lot is from u leh, [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] , good luck to u to unload. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Re: 18 March 2011
maxims wrote:sk wrote:Samseng wrote:axiata got movement
this one bb also very lag. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
but cimb is very fair...at least 10 times fairer than osk...
cimb mm style is they q buy 0.19 q sell 0.2..once people buy 0.2 and mom up..thy rarely spot sell 0.2 again...THEY MM FOLLOW MOM MOVEMENT ALMOST 85%...NOT LIKE OSK....PEOPLE BUY 5K LOT WHEN MOM UP...THEY GO AND SELL 10K LOT AGAIN....IF LIKE THAT THOSE GET CAUGHT BUYING 5K LOT WILL EVENTUALLY EITHER SELL BACK AT COST OR EVEN LOST...
ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS TOPGLOV CC
that time i bought drb ce at 15.....when mum and cc up so much ce is stuck at 15cent
i was tempted to sell at 155 or 16......
in the end it suddenly run to 18ct after mum up to 2.05 level
agree.....
could have made losses when we should be winning........
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Re: 18 March 2011
thanks max for sharing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]maxims wrote:sk wrote:Samseng wrote:axiata got movement
this one bb also very lag. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
but cimb is very fair...at least 10 times fairer than osk...
cimb mm style is they q buy 0.19 q sell 0.2..once people buy 0.2 and mom up..thy rarely spot sell 0.2 again...THEY MM FOLLOW MOM MOVEMENT ALMOST 85%...NOT LIKE OSK....PEOPLE BUY 5K LOT WHEN MOM UP...THEY GO AND SELL 10K LOT AGAIN....IF LIKE THAT THOSE GET CAUGHT BUYING 5K LOT WILL EVENTUALLY EITHER SELL BACK AT COST OR EVEN LOST...
ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS TOPGLOV CC
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Re: 18 March 2011
OSK Research maintains Trading Buy on Faber, unch TP RM3.02
this OSK research suck BIG time !!
ppl wary on 75c cancellation on Faber, they still have high TP, must be holding a lot at high price.
this OSK research suck BIG time !!
ppl wary on 75c cancellation on Faber, they still have high TP, must be holding a lot at high price.
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Re: 18 March 2011
market seems to be chilling today....
not alot of huge movement upward
not alot of huge movement upward
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Re: 18 March 2011
phoenix87 wrote:market seems to be chilling today....
not alot of huge movement upward
this is what we called cautious trading....
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Re: 18 March 2011
sk wrote:phoenix87 wrote:market seems to be chilling today....
not alot of huge movement upward
this is what we called cautious trading....
guess people are afraid what might happen to the reactor in the weekend..........
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Re: 18 March 2011
yupphoenix87 wrote:sk wrote:phoenix87 wrote:market seems to be chilling today....
not alot of huge movement upward
this is what we called cautious trading....
guess people are afraid what might happen to the reactor in the weekend..........
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Re: 18 March 2011
Samseng wrote:yup i want to take 0.2 just now when mom up 4.81 just now, then see it come back down [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]davidlo wrote:Samseng wrote:axiata got movement
the 201 lot is from u leh, [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] , good luck to u to unload. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
congrat, u sell it liao. half sen profit oso not bad la. still have 1 lot, sell it 0.19 ba. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Re: 18 March 2011
Bank of Japan pumps US$37bil into markets Friday
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TOKYO: The Bank of Japan pumped more cash into money markets Friday for the fifth day straight to respond to last week's quake and tsunami, and expressed hopes that joint action by the Group of Seven nations will help prevent the dollar's plunge.
By adding money to the banking system, the central bank hopes lending will meet the expected surge in demand for funds after last Friday's earthquake and tsunami in northeastern Japan, which has killed more than 5,600 people. More than 9,500 people are missing, according to police.
The dollar recovered to 81 yen levels in early Tokyo trading after the G-7 action.
It had plunged to an all-time low of 76.32 yen overnight before rallying back to about 78.90 yen. Even that level is way below the previous all-time low of 79.75 yen recorded back in April 1995.
Finance officials from the Group of Seven major industrialized countries agreed on coordinated currency intervention to support Japan's economy - the first time the G-7 countries have jointly intervened in currency markets since the fall of 2000.
In a joint statement issued following emergency discussions, the G-7 officials said that the United States, Britain, Canada and the European Central Bank will join with Japan in a "concerted intervention" in currency markets.
Bank of Japan Gov. Masaaki Shirakawa expressed hopes the G-7 actions will help stabilize markets, and promised the Bank of Japan will continue to ensure ample liquidity.
The Japanese central bank pumped an additional 3 trillion yen ($37 billion) into money markets Friday to keep financial markets stable.
Earlier, the bank conducted emergency operations over the week that added 34 trillion yen ($420 billion) in short-term funds to the financial system.
Flooding the banking system with extra money is expected to help meet the surge in lending for disaster relief. - AP
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TOKYO: The Bank of Japan pumped more cash into money markets Friday for the fifth day straight to respond to last week's quake and tsunami, and expressed hopes that joint action by the Group of Seven nations will help prevent the dollar's plunge.
By adding money to the banking system, the central bank hopes lending will meet the expected surge in demand for funds after last Friday's earthquake and tsunami in northeastern Japan, which has killed more than 5,600 people. More than 9,500 people are missing, according to police.
The dollar recovered to 81 yen levels in early Tokyo trading after the G-7 action.
It had plunged to an all-time low of 76.32 yen overnight before rallying back to about 78.90 yen. Even that level is way below the previous all-time low of 79.75 yen recorded back in April 1995.
Finance officials from the Group of Seven major industrialized countries agreed on coordinated currency intervention to support Japan's economy - the first time the G-7 countries have jointly intervened in currency markets since the fall of 2000.
In a joint statement issued following emergency discussions, the G-7 officials said that the United States, Britain, Canada and the European Central Bank will join with Japan in a "concerted intervention" in currency markets.
Bank of Japan Gov. Masaaki Shirakawa expressed hopes the G-7 actions will help stabilize markets, and promised the Bank of Japan will continue to ensure ample liquidity.
The Japanese central bank pumped an additional 3 trillion yen ($37 billion) into money markets Friday to keep financial markets stable.
Earlier, the bank conducted emergency operations over the week that added 34 trillion yen ($420 billion) in short-term funds to the financial system.
Flooding the banking system with extra money is expected to help meet the surge in lending for disaster relief. - AP
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