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Re: 29 July 2011
Weak growth, debt standoff hit US stocks
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Re: 29 July 2011
hlk wrote:phoenix wrote:phoenix wrote:hlk wrote:dj 12,143.24
-96.87 (-0.79%)
Jul 29 - Close
dow just close meh????
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nxt wk more panic selling ?
thankfully i cleared all mrcb at closing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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FBM KLCI falls 30.26 points in July
NEW YORK: US stocks sank on Friday, weighed down by an unexpectedly negative report on the country's economic growth and nervousness over the debt-ceiling battle in Washington.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 96.87 points (0.79 percent) to close at 12,143.24. It has now fallen for six consecutive trading days.
The broader S&P 500 tumbled 8.39 points (0.65 percent) to 1,292.28, while the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite shed 9.87 points (0.36 percent) to close at 2,756.38.
The Dow plunged more than 100 points in opening trade after the government reported that US gross domestic product grew just 1.3 percent in the second quarter, a much slower pace than economists had expected.
Notably, the government also slashed its estimate for first-quarter GDP growth from 1.9 percent to just 0.4 percent.
"The revision of Q1 was pretty stunning. Not a good overall number to finish the week on," said Marc Pado, chief US market strategist for Cantor Fitzgerald.
Stock markets later made up some ground but remained depressed as investors worried about the looming threat of a default by the US government or a downgrade of the United States' top-notch credit rating.
Only four days remain before a deadline set by the US Treasury for when it says it will stop being able to pay its bills unless Congress raises the government's $14.29 trillion borrowing limit.
Congress has been unable to reach a compromise as deeply divided Democrats and Republicans have struggled to bridge their differences over taxes and government spending.
In company news, shares of Yahoo! fell 3.0 percent after the Internet services firm announced that it had settled a dispute with its Chinese partners over payment-processing unit Alipay.
Yahoo! claimed victory in the agreement, but some analysts compared the resolution of the dispute to a forced sale.
Shares of Chevron, the number-two US oil company, dropped 1.0 percent even though it reported that its second-quarter profits had surged 43 percent to $7.73 billion.
Bond prices rallied. The yield on the 10-year Treasury fell to 2.81 percent from 2.95 percent late on Thursday, while the 30-year bond dropped to 4.13 percent from 4.26 percent. -- AFP
NEW YORK: US stocks sank on Friday, weighed down by an unexpectedly negative report on the country's economic growth and nervousness over the debt-ceiling battle in Washington.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 96.87 points (0.79 percent) to close at 12,143.24. It has now fallen for six consecutive trading days.
The broader S&P 500 tumbled 8.39 points (0.65 percent) to 1,292.28, while the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite shed 9.87 points (0.36 percent) to close at 2,756.38.
The Dow plunged more than 100 points in opening trade after the government reported that US gross domestic product grew just 1.3 percent in the second quarter, a much slower pace than economists had expected.
Notably, the government also slashed its estimate for first-quarter GDP growth from 1.9 percent to just 0.4 percent.
"The revision of Q1 was pretty stunning. Not a good overall number to finish the week on," said Marc Pado, chief US market strategist for Cantor Fitzgerald.
Stock markets later made up some ground but remained depressed as investors worried about the looming threat of a default by the US government or a downgrade of the United States' top-notch credit rating.
Only four days remain before a deadline set by the US Treasury for when it says it will stop being able to pay its bills unless Congress raises the government's $14.29 trillion borrowing limit.
Congress has been unable to reach a compromise as deeply divided Democrats and Republicans have struggled to bridge their differences over taxes and government spending.
In company news, shares of Yahoo! fell 3.0 percent after the Internet services firm announced that it had settled a dispute with its Chinese partners over payment-processing unit Alipay.
Yahoo! claimed victory in the agreement, but some analysts compared the resolution of the dispute to a forced sale.
Shares of Chevron, the number-two US oil company, dropped 1.0 percent even though it reported that its second-quarter profits had surged 43 percent to $7.73 billion.
Bond prices rallied. The yield on the 10-year Treasury fell to 2.81 percent from 2.95 percent late on Thursday, while the 30-year bond dropped to 4.13 percent from 4.26 percent. -- AFP
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phoenix wrote:hlk wrote:phoenix wrote:K.Y. wrote:Ya lo, market sentiment is the major consideration. Just a watchlist only. Emico Picorp die, look at their past, they were nothing special also, haha, i also learned a lesson. CME can hit and run this morning. but i will continues to watch it, it cant say die yet. Technical only can very useful when the market is good.phoenix wrote:ur watchlist......
Watchlist tomorrow : CME, Dutaland, Picorp, Emico, Olympia, Kurusia, MRCB.
dutaland fly in pre opening.....cme holland....emico picorp like u say bor lat.....kurasia.....retrace....olympia retrace......mrcb fly
lesson learnt....external factor like dow affect tech analysis
cme nt worth hit n run leh.....open at 10.....move to 10.5.....
i notice you aim for cheap stocks due to low cap bt......broaden ur perspective lor.....dont always aim for 10ct stcok....sometimes go for 50ct....rm1 stocks
sometimes those high price stock when chiong it chiong 20cts....15cts so 100 lot equals 2k d u knw....
in conclusion technical can help u make ur watchlist.....bt in real market situation apply wysiwyg lor....
for guys like u who apply wysiwyg its very good
i know lots of ppl who spot a good sign in technical and dump all their money in to the stock.....in the end big player keep selling he also hangus [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
well said, phoenix ... in d end its still wysiwyg tat prevail ... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
sad i let d red mkt get 2 me so zero trading ystd missed mrcb-ce 2 rounds ... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
bt need to do homework also mah....like reading news....tech analysis.....so u can agak agak knw where the gold pot is.....
i dont know if this is a bad habit or nt but sometimes in very intense trade in hot stocks.....i can trade from 9-9.45....hunting non stop then only realise the market sentiment [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.].....sometimes din realise until my fren tell me.....mayb excel force market sentiment nt tht visible [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
i m 2 kful tat i only went in at d opening of trading n once sold nvr look back ... take zecon n ingress all dragons which i missed tot game over tat i shd concentrate
on trading cw less risky ... i m also not mindful of d index movement until some1 pointed out tats y is good not 2 trade alone ...
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phoenix wrote:K.Y. wrote:Dunno lo.. Must depends on US already.. This weekend so crucial leh... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
If next time i tell u all which stock to watch by technical view, then u all apply wysiwyg on that day then GOOD lo! haha
like mrcb lor......bt i kena burn by dutland.....cannot run drop too fast [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
ppl alr goreng duta few days so by d time news out its PT time t+3 somemore ... usually there is a push up b4 d fall ... syn @ work ?
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hlk wrote:phoenix wrote:K.Y. wrote:Dunno lo.. Must depends on US already.. This weekend so crucial leh... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
If next time i tell u all which stock to watch by technical view, then u all apply wysiwyg on that day then GOOD lo! haha
like mrcb lor......bt i kena burn by dutland.....cannot run drop too fast [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
ppl alr goreng duta few days so by d time news out its PT time t+3 somemore ... usually there is a push up b4 d fall ... syn @ work ? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
greedy too.....i can sell at 20ct....bt want more mah.....suddly when they widraw 10k lot q all dissapear [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Re: 29 July 2011
hlk wrote:phoenix wrote:hlk wrote:phoenix wrote:K.Y. wrote:Ya lo, market sentiment is the major consideration. Just a watchlist only. Emico Picorp die, look at their past, they were nothing special also, haha, i also learned a lesson. CME can hit and run this morning. but i will continues to watch it, it cant say die yet. Technical only can very useful when the market is good.
cme nt worth hit n run leh.....open at 10.....move to 10.5.....
i notice you aim for cheap stocks due to low cap bt......broaden ur perspective lor.....dont always aim for 10ct stcok....sometimes go for 50ct....rm1 stocks
sometimes those high price stock when chiong it chiong 20cts....15cts so 100 lot equals 2k d u knw....
in conclusion technical can help u make ur watchlist.....bt in real market situation apply wysiwyg lor....
for guys like u who apply wysiwyg its very good
i know lots of ppl who spot a good sign in technical and dump all their money in to the stock.....in the end big player keep selling he also hangus [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
well said, phoenix ... in d end its still wysiwyg tat prevail ... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
sad i let d red mkt get 2 me so zero trading ystd missed mrcb-ce 2 rounds ... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
bt need to do homework also mah....like reading news....tech analysis.....so u can agak agak knw where the gold pot is.....
i dont know if this is a bad habit or nt but sometimes in very intense trade in hot stocks.....i can trade from 9-9.45....hunting non stop then only realise the market sentiment [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.].....sometimes din realise until my fren tell me.....mayb excel force market sentiment nt tht visible [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
i m 2 kful tat i only went in at d opening of trading n once sold nvr look back ... take zecon n ingress all dragons which i missed tot game over tat i shd concentrate
on trading cw less risky ... i m also not mindful of d index movement until some1 pointed out tats y is good not 2 trade alone ... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
dont look back got pro and cons too....
pro is you wont chase too high and kena burn
cons is the stock might go higher
for me i usually go in and out fast so no worries one...like zecon wa i made 15 transaction.....in the end brokerage kao kao [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
one weakness i have in goreng stock is i dont q.....so miss out many pt opportunity....i usually spot sell
haih.....cos i scared if q....the buy q dissapear cannot run.....bt the only chance to win in some goreng stock is quing cos the q keep coming back
how leh....any advice on this
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Re: 29 July 2011
gtg my laptop battery going dead ... chat tonite
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phoenix wrote:hlk wrote:phoenix wrote:K.Y. wrote:Dunno lo.. Must depends on US already.. This weekend so crucial leh... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
If next time i tell u all which stock to watch by technical view, then u all apply wysiwyg on that day then GOOD lo! haha
like mrcb lor......bt i kena burn by dutland.....cannot run drop too fast [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
ppl alr goreng duta few days so by d time news out its PT time t+3 somemore ... usually there is a push up b4 d fall ... syn @ work ? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
greedy too.....i can sell at 20ct....bt want more mah.....suddly when they widraw 10k lot q all dissapear [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
those alr goreng few days jz take small profit 0.005 - 1sen run 4 ur life ...
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phoenix wrote:hlk wrote:phoenix wrote:K.Y. wrote:Dunno lo.. Must depends on US already.. This weekend so crucial leh... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
If next time i tell u all which stock to watch by technical view, then u all apply wysiwyg on that day then GOOD lo! haha
like mrcb lor......bt i kena burn by dutland.....cannot run drop too fast [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
ppl alr goreng duta few days so by d time news out its PT time t+3 somemore ... usually there is a push up b4 d fall ... syn @ work ? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
greedy too.....i can sell at 20ct....bt want more mah.....suddly when they widraw 10k lot q all dissapear [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
10k lot is composed by certain bid or few successive bids? i think you can done trade if you sell instant on few bids lower.
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Re: 29 July 2011
I always afraid to hit and run leh, not dare man, Mayb my skill still poor... This one must keep monitoring on the screen only can do it... Wait until i holiday then i can learn more
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Phoenix thx for ur remind, ya i shud not only look for below 20cent counter. I always look for it, because it is easier to get goreng up and you can get the maximum profit with limited capital. I just hope if i spot those counters which are 50sen above they will have warrant. haha.
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Next week market all very green as US passes to raise the debt ceiling
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W wrote:phoenix wrote:hlk wrote:phoenix wrote:K.Y. wrote:Dunno lo.. Must depends on US already.. This weekend so crucial leh... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
If next time i tell u all which stock to watch by technical view, then u all apply wysiwyg on that day then GOOD lo! haha
like mrcb lor......bt i kena burn by dutland.....cannot run drop too fast [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
ppl alr goreng duta few days so by d time news out its PT time t+3 somemore ... usually there is a push up b4 d fall ... syn @ work ? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
greedy too.....i can sell at 20ct....bt want more mah.....suddly when they widraw 10k lot q all dissapear [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
10k lot is composed by certain bid or few successive bids? i think you can done trade if you sell instant on few bids lower.
i took at 19.5cts....n tht time the q was 10k 19.5 vs 3k 20ct....
sudly the bid change to 19.5 sell q 5k lot.....like someone dump 15k lot in an instant [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
at first want to sell at cost mah.....if sell 19 would have jump q bt might sell at lost too....mana tau kena burn
thats y im minimizing my goreng stock trade d.....i play bb this one mth i dont remember losing.....worst is lose fee nia
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Re: 29 July 2011
K.Y. wrote:Phoenix thx for ur remind, ya i shud not only look for below 20cent counter. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] I always look for it, because it is easier to get goreng up and you can get the maximum profit with limited capital. I just hope if i spot those counters which are 50sen above they will have warrant. haha.
i used to focus on 20ct counter too......but lets say there are only 100 20ct counter.....if u open urself to all there are alot more opp lor.....where got hari hari 20ct counter goreng one rite???
also i notice
counter below 10ct move very slow due to huge sell q
counter from 15-30 are my fav....move fast
30-50 i can afford the move fast too
but the fastest grp is 70-80ct the can move all the way to rm1....
rm1 counter also nt bad cos the bid is nt half ct.....
lets say u take 500 lot 20ct counter.....when it go up 1 bid u earn 250....
but if u take 250 lot rm1 counter it go up 1 bid u earn 250 too.....so agak agak the same lah [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Re: 29 July 2011
phoenix wrote:W wrote:phoenix wrote:hlk wrote:phoenix wrote:
like mrcb lor......bt i kena burn by dutland.....cannot run drop too fast [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
ppl alr goreng duta few days so by d time news out its PT time t+3 somemore ... usually there is a push up b4 d fall ... syn @ work ? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
greedy too.....i can sell at 20ct....bt want more mah.....suddly when they widraw 10k lot q all dissapear [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
10k lot is composed by certain bid or few successive bids? i think you can done trade if you sell instant on few bids lower.
i took at 19.5cts....n tht time the q was 10k 19.5 vs 3k 20ct....
sudly the bid change to 19.5 sell q 5k lot.....like someone dump 15k lot in an instant [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
at first want to sell at cost mah.....if sell 19 would have jump q bt might sell at lost too....mana tau kena burn
thats y im minimizing my goreng stock trade d.....i play bb this one mth i dont remember losing.....worst is lose fee nia
u sold what price at last?
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W wrote:phoenix wrote:W wrote:phoenix wrote:hlk wrote:
ppl alr goreng duta few days so by d time news out its PT time t+3 somemore ... usually there is a push up b4 d fall ... syn @ work ? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
greedy too.....i can sell at 20ct....bt want more mah.....suddly when they widraw 10k lot q all dissapear [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
10k lot is composed by certain bid or few successive bids? i think you can done trade if you sell instant on few bids lower.
i took at 19.5cts....n tht time the q was 10k 19.5 vs 3k 20ct....
sudly the bid change to 19.5 sell q 5k lot.....like someone dump 15k lot in an instant [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
at first want to sell at cost mah.....if sell 19 would have jump q bt might sell at lost too....mana tau kena burn
thats y im minimizing my goreng stock trade d.....i play bb this one mth i dont remember losing.....worst is lose fee nia
u sold what price at last?
18....3 bids gone....haih
but make it all back in the next few trade
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Re: 29 July 2011
i go watch captain america first
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Re: 29 July 2011
19.5sen already too high lo, compare to my call last time. Thats y i din buy it. But nvm, i think Dutaland still not yet die + good news is coming. Look at Wijaya always break the highest. Stockraider in investlah gave a conservative fair value is 90sen, perhaps Sifu dont like we listen to investlah members. But they used fundamental to calculate, sometime we also can refer to. Now my first job is to cover back my loss in Gcm... what a missed on mrcb if not can get back already
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K.Y. wrote:19.5sen already too high lo, compare to my call last time. Thats y i din buy it. But nvm, i think Dutaland still not yet die + good news is coming. Look at Wijaya always break the highest. Stockraider in investlah gave a conservative fair value is 90sen, perhaps Sifu dont like we listen to investlah members. But they used fundamental to calculate, sometime we also can refer to. Now my first job is to cover back my loss in Gcm... what a missed on mrcb if not can get back already
good luck,k.y.
your g-cm loss soon can gain back.no worry.
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W wrote:K.Y. wrote:19.5sen already too high lo, compare to my call last time. Thats y i din buy it. But nvm, i think Dutaland still not yet die + good news is coming. Look at Wijaya always break the highest. Stockraider in investlah gave a conservative fair value is 90sen, perhaps Sifu dont like we listen to investlah members. But they used fundamental to calculate, sometime we also can refer to. Now my first job is to cover back my loss in Gcm... what a missed on mrcb if not can get back already
good luck,k.y.
your g-cm loss soon can gain back.no worry.
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K.Y. wrote:19.5sen already too high lo, compare to my call last time. Thats y i din buy it. But nvm, i think Dutaland still not yet die + good news is coming. Look at Wijaya always break the highest. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Stockraider in investlah gave a conservative fair value is 90sen, perhaps Sifu dont like we listen to investlah members. But they used fundamental to calculate, sometime we also can refer to. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Now my first job is to cover back my loss in Gcm... what a missed on mrcb if not can get back already [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
fundamental useless onelah especially goreng stock.....last time i used to take few hours to research on ipo like ijacobs....boilem....and other goreng company.....the moment boilem open at 85ct my research n fundamental all throw out of the window......these day i lazy to research liaoi....do abit research then rest wysiwyg.....in fact the research i do is nt abt the company....is who is the director....try to guess who will goreng.....the no of share the buy sell q.....
those ppl in investlah want a reason to buy mah=investor....so if the stock crash the can con thmself that the stock have fundamental lor.....or if their fren ask why u buy they can tell lor....and mayb persuade others to buy lor....
look at hwgb ppl used to do research and pt the TP as Rm3???
howabt bornoil 1.50????
daya rm1???
knm rm4?????
see which one come true???out of 100 calls they make only small % come true.....[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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phoenix wrote:K.Y. wrote:19.5sen already too high lo, compare to my call last time. Thats y i din buy it. But nvm, i think Dutaland still not yet die + good news is coming. Look at Wijaya always break the highest. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Stockraider in investlah gave a conservative fair value is 90sen, perhaps Sifu dont like we listen to investlah members. But they used fundamental to calculate, sometime we also can refer to. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Now my first job is to cover back my loss in Gcm... what a missed on mrcb if not can get back already [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
fundamental useless onelah especially goreng stock.....last time i used to take few hours to research on ipo like ijacobs....boilem....and other goreng company.....the moment boilem open at 85ct my research n fundamental all throw out of the window......these day i lazy to research liaoi....do abit research then rest wysiwyg.....in fact the research i do is nt abt the company....is who is the director....try to guess who will goreng.....the no of share the buy sell q.....
those ppl in investlah want a reason to buy mah=investor....so if the stock crash the can con thmself that the stock have fundamental lor.....or if their fren ask why u buy they can tell lor....and mayb persuade others to buy lor....
look at hwgb ppl used to do research and pt the TP as Rm3???
howabt bornoil 1.50????
daya rm1???
knm rm4?????
see which one come true???out of 100 calls they make only small % come true.....[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
i got one fren still holding on to sridge....keep telling me that sridge will reach 50ct soon.....
he tell me one month d....lets see lah [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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hlk, +1 rep, hope you achieve your mission soon [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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gaga wrote:hlk, +1 rep, hope you achieve your mission soon [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
tks sun ... 1 gv u 1 rep in appreciation of ur kindness n s motivation ...
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